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 Post subject: Driest September on Record
PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:17 pm 
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Well two weeks in September and just 1.3mm rainfall recorded. Got me thinking of the driest September on Record both for me and County Wide

Brampton - 55.2mm in 2002

Darren R has been on the case aswell

Brampton Denton House ( just up the road from me)
1894 7.6mm


Research Continues

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 Post subject: Re: Driest September on Record
PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:02 am 
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Carlisle's record is 13.0mm in 1986.

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 Post subject: Re: Driest September on Record
PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:23 am 
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Sunderland 39.4mm in 1996

45.0mm in 2002

on 5.4mm here so far this month


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 Post subject: Re: Driest September on Record
PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:00 pm 
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Scotby 1989
September total 19.5mm

That's by far the driest I've recorded. But only 3.5mm so far this month!
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 Post subject: Re: Driest September on Record
PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:59 am 
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Email sent to Met Office, awaiting reply :D

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 Post subject: Re: Driest September on Record
PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:48 am 
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Reply from Met Office

Thank you for your email.

There is an internal historic county series (back to 1910) for Cumberland and Westmorland and these both indicate 1910 as being the year with the driest September. September 1986 was the 2nd or 3rd driest September in terms of these regional series.

Analysing the digitised monthly rainfall data, then the lowest September station total was 8.0 mm at Shap S Wks in 1986. Next lowest September total was 8.4 mm at Penrith, Arthur Street in 1910.

I hope this information is of assistance.

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Mark Beswick Archive Information Officer
Met Office National Meteorological Archive

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 Post subject: Re: Driest September on Record
PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:10 pm 
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Mark Beswick is an excellent chap, he has helped me quite a few times and always gives excellent and well researched answers.
I think that with todays Met'O news blog it is a Q getting asked a lot at present.

in my e-mail to Paul C I had mentioned Appleby in 1910 but that in 1910 I also found just 7.9mm at Morland which was slightly drier.

But as we know, all quoted rainfall data with the Met'O only goes back to 1910 anyway - you need to do your own research to find an answer - as proved by the 1894 data.

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 Post subject: Re: Driest September on Record
PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:12 pm 
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I have now started to download and save all the British Rainfall Books, following my water leak on my collection and subsequent mould attack. These can be saved in "pdf" format and the whole book then becomes searchable by any word you wish. I had thought if I could save all the books as one big mega pdf I could search the whole series in a few seconds for key words ?

Any ideas if this is possible

I think we need now a top ten driest locations for each month of the year, now that will take some researching zz

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 Post subject: Re: Driest September on Record
PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:48 pm 
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Its a really good idea to digitise them. Will you scan them as .jpg images or some other format? I know you can make them into .pdf files but didn't know you could search for words in a .pdf made from a .jpg. If you can, then I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to make one big file. Google books do it!
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 Post subject: Re: Driest September on Record
PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:07 am 
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Anne wrote:
Its a really good idea to digitise them. Will you scan them as .jpg images or some other format? I know you can make them into .pdf files but didn't know you could search for words in a .pdf made from a .jpg. If you can, then I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to make one big file. Google books do it!
Anne


Fortunatley Anne the Met office has already scanned them all http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/archive/british-rainfall it would have taken me years and years.

They are already in .pdf format already over 100 files each about 20mb. Question is could I combine all files and store on m y computer for easy reference, looks like it would be a huge file, say 2000mb plus which I assume is 2GB .

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