Wettest Summer On Record

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Re: Wettest Summer On Record

Post by rjd1000 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:44 am

Paul C wrote:I haven't got the 1912 version, one of my missing few, I wonder why !. Fortunately I was given some photocopied sheets of the missing volumes, contained within these sheets are "some" rainfall data for 1912.
surely 2012 has been wetter than 1912 in Cumbria going by some of them, penrith has had 454mm this summer

would be good to try get comparisons for some other of those places?

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Re: Wettest Summer On Record

Post by Paul C » Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:21 pm

YES - will post a message elsewhere and see if I can find some additional "cumbria" data. I have a feeling though that what I have may be the only monthly data, the rest may be just yearly stuff ?

Will let you know

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Re: Wettest Summer On Record

Post by darrog » Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:54 pm

Dear Darren,

Many thanks for your request for the rainfall totals for Newton Rigg for the months of June, July and August 1912. The monthly rainfall totals for Newton Rigg for these three months are as follows:

June 1912: 5.19 inches (131.8 mm)

July 1912: 3.48 inches (88.4 mm)

August 1912: 5.01 inches (127.3 mm)

This gives a grand summer total of 13.68 inches (347.5 mm)

I hope this information will be of interest.

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Not as wet as I thought and not as wet as 2004 and 2007 - so looks like Newton Rigg as never had x3 100m+ summer months
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Re: Wettest Summer On Record

Post by Paul C » Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:25 am

At least the Newton Rigg and the Penrith Fell Lane reading are nearly identical for 1912.

I have contacted someone with the 1912 and there is no further information for any other station in Cumbria.

So ? - Are we saying that 2012 has been the wettest on record ( in Cumbria )

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Re: Wettest Summer On Record

Post by Paul C » Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:46 pm

darrog wrote:Dear Darren,

Many thanks for your request for the rainfall totals for Newton Rigg for the months of June, July and August 1912. The monthly rainfall totals for Newton Rigg for these three months are as follows:

June 1912: 5.19 inches (131.8 mm)

July 1912: 3.48 inches (88.4 mm)

August 1912: 5.01 inches (127.3 mm)

This gives a grand summer total of 13.68 inches (347.5 mm)

I hope this information will be of interest.

Kind regards

Steve

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Met Office FitzRoy Road Exeter Devon EX1 3PB United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0)1392 884845 Fax: +44 (0)1392 885681
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Not as wet as I thought and not as wet as 2004 and 2007 - so looks like Newton Rigg as never had x3 100m+ summer months
Interesting that Newton Rigg doesnt appear in the British Rainfall book of 1912 ?

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Re: Wettest Summer On Record

Post by Anne » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:15 pm

I hope I'm going to be able to paste my rainfall list for all the summers in my records. I've ranked them in order of wetness! 2012 has been over 120mm wetter than any previous summer. RAA
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HELP .... I've got my list in Excel and when I paste it here it looks OK. When I submit the message to the forum all the spacings are cancelled and it looks like a meaningless jumble of numbers. I've tried it as an attachment but it says .xls and .doc are not allowed.

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Re: Wettest Summer On Record

Post by wmb » Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:53 pm

Paul C wrote:At least the Newton Rigg and the Penrith Fell Lane reading are nearly identical for 1912.

I have contacted someone with the 1912 and there is no further information for any other station in Cumbria.

So ? - Are we saying that 2012 has been the wettest on record ( in Cumbria )
Wha were the figures for 1985 - didn't that have a very wet August (record breaking I think in parts of SW scotland) an NI?

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Re: Wettest Summer On Record

Post by Paul C » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:29 am

Anne wrote:I hope I'm going to be able to paste my rainfall list for all the summers in my records. I've ranked them in order of wetness! 2012 has been over 120mm wetter than any previous summer. RAA
Anne

HELP .... I've got my list in Excel and when I paste it here it looks OK. When I submit the message to the forum all the spacings are cancelled and it looks like a meaningless jumble of numbers. I've tried it as an attachment but it says .xls and .doc are not allowed.
No, sorry Anne copying and pasting spreadsheets doesnt work. the best way is to use the "snipping" tool, take a snap shot of your sheet and then upload that to the forum as an image. Or you can email to me and I will do it for you pacrabtree@gmail.com

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Re: Wettest Summer On Record

Post by darrog » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:17 am

1985 - at Newton Rigg this would be the 4th wettest (to become 5th wettest after 2012?)

Current list is 2004 - 2007 - 1980

then comes 1985 with 296.6 mm

June = 50.9 mm
July = 103.5 mm
Aug = 142.7 mm
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Re: Wettest Summer On Record

Post by Paul C » Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:09 pm

I think a task of collating and then defining the wettest summer is impossible. Cumbria is a large county with a vast array of climates within its boundaries. Coastal, Mountains and valleys.
Should we pick 5 locations with a long history and collate some data ?

!. Coastal SW - Walney
2. Mountain area - Seathwaite
3. North Cumbria, rain shadow - Carlisle
4. Eden Valley -Newton Rigg
5. South central ? - Kendal

If that is a balanced group may be able to come up with some data. I accept that the more stations we have the better the "average" will be. Must that would take many months to calculate ?

Any thoughts

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