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 5th December 2015 Rainfall and Flooding 
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 Post subject: Re: 5th December 2015 Rainfall and Flooding
PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:36 pm 
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A long time since I've posted - I hope you are all well. I don't get any time to do weather things at the moment, but considering the mazing volume of rain - I thought I'd post our data!

We recorded 263.2mm at th northern end of Shap Town from 09:00 on 4th Dec to 09:00 on the 6th, although pretty much all of that was between 20:00 on the 4th and 06:00 on the 6th (34 hours). The more standard 24 hr period of 09:00 - 09:00 recorded 165.8mm - essentially very similar data to the Met office 'Shap' automated recording station which is perhaps a mile or two away from the town.

This caused flooding in the house :( (from just rainwater volume, rather than river)

As there is not a significant number of habitations at honister or thirlmere (or seathwaite) - It got me wondering - is Shap the wettest town in the UK based on this sort of 24hr data? (rather than a yearly total?)

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 Post subject: Re: 5th December 2015 Rainfall and Flooding
PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:13 pm 
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RumZ wrote:
A long time since I've posted - I hope you are all well. I don't get any time to do weather things at the moment, but considering the mazing volume of rain - I thought I'd post our data!

We recorded 263.2mm at th northern end of Shap Town from 09:00 on 4th Dec to 09:00 on the 6th, although pretty much all of that was between 20:00 on the 4th and 06:00 on the 6th (34 hours). The more standard 24 hr period of 09:00 - 09:00 recorded 165.8mm - essentially very similar data to the Met office 'Shap' automated recording station which is perhaps a mile or two away from the town.

This caused flooding in the house :( (from just rainwater volume, rather than river)

As there is not a significant number of habitations at honister or thirlmere (or seathwaite) - It got me wondering - is Shap the wettest town in the UK based on this sort of 24hr data? (rather than a yearly total?)

Cheers,

Mike


Hi - welcome back Mike

I thought Shap was a village, I suppose we could discuss that until the cows come home ??

I,m certain Shap must be up there as one of the wettest habitated places - I think Darren may be best suited to this answer/discussion

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 Post subject: Re: 5th December 2015 Rainfall and Flooding
PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:15 pm 
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Some river level data - all look to have smashed previous records.- will updated when levels have been confirmed

One thing I did come across is that I dont Haweswater was full prior to the rainfall event, just wondered if this spared Carlisle etc less - just a thought ?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:52 pm 
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Paul C wrote:

Hi - welcome back Mike

I thought Shap was a village, I suppose we could discuss that until the cows come home ??

I,m certain Shap must be up there as one of the wettest habitated places - I think Darren may be best suited to this answer/discussion


Seathwaite wettest inhabited place

Ambleside wettest town i think - possibly only town to get over 2000mm rainfall


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 Post subject: Re: 5th December 2015 Rainfall and Flooding
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:06 am 
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Diagram of the river level records source Met Office and Defra


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 Post subject: Re: 5th December 2015 Rainfall and Flooding
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:28 pm 
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Seathwaite will be eager to get the record back then? RAA


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 Post subject: Re: 5th December 2015 Rainfall and Flooding
PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 4:56 pm 
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I've been contacted by a former colleague who is writing a report about the floods. He's looking for sources of detailed info on rainfall during the event.

Any pointers other than the Met Office?


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:30 pm 
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I've been contacted by a former colleague who is writing a report about the floods. He's looking for sources of detailed info on rainfall during the event.

Any pointers other than the Met Office?


The only other place will be the EA - I will get the data around 8th Jan from the usual locations.

Please email me and I can pass on my contact details at the EA for him. Aslong as he lets us see his report at the end.
pacrabtree@gmail.com

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 Post subject: Re: 5th December 2015 Rainfall and Flooding
PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:31 pm 
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https://www.facebook.com/EHCarlisleCast ... 2452267644

Carlisle flooded in 1925 aswell - - similar levels

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 Post subject: Re: 5th December 2015 Rainfall and Flooding
PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 11:00 pm 
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wmb & Paul: With regards to data and the floods.

My folks now report precipitation to the EA with a standard gauge as well as using our Davis for our personal records (the gauge was just started a couple of months back) - get in contact if that's of use - I suppose you'll get that in data Paul gets on the 8th? - but in case not as its a new (change in) location, let me know. Site Name: Shap Village.

(clearly a village then not a town (contrary to Wikipedia...?) but less said about that the better.

Cheers !

Mike


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